Last week, the ÀÏ°ÄÃÅ¿ª½±½á¹û and were back before a judge in San Francisco arguing against the government's motion to dismiss in Hepting v. AT&T, the granddaddy of class-action lawsuits against just one of the telecoms accused of colluding with the NSA to spy on Americans' calls. Legal Director Harvey Grossman spoke with Glenn Greenwald about Tuesday's hearing on Salon Radio. You can , or . It's a fascinating discussion for the FISA and wiretapping buffs among you.