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As the Bush administration completes secret new rules governing interrogations, a group of experts advising the intelligence agencies are arguing that the harsh techniques used since the 2001 terrorist attacks are outmoded, amateurish and unreliable.The psychologists and other specialists, commissioned by the Intelligence Science Board, make the case that more than five years after the Sept. 11 attacks, the Bush administration has yet to create an elite corps of interrogators trained to glean secrets from terrorism suspects.While billions are spent each year to upgrade satellites and other high-tech spy machinery, the experts say, interrogation methods 芒鈧�鈥� possibly the most important source of information on groups like Al Qaeda 芒鈧�鈥� are a hodgepodge that date from the 1950s, or are modeled on old Soviet practices.Some of the study participants argue that interrogation should be restructured using lessons from many fields, including the tricks of veteran homicide detectives, the persuasive techniques of sophisticated marketing and models from American history.